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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2021 12:15 am

Absolutely brilliant news and well done all concerned. Actually Teesside got a mention in the BUDGET for setting an example for people to follow like Teesside. Freeport will take off more ships out there from now on. Wonder if the Nissaan ships will return from Sunderland to Teesport. Plenty of room.
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2021 12:22 am

Makes sense as a place where stuff can be imported then exported without the hassle of tariff payments and unnecessary paperwork - much increased since Brexit.

But that's not what it's really about. It'll be a haven for corporate tax-dodgers and money-launderers.

Discuss.

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2021 12:33 am

There's always one , isn't there Pete !
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2021 12:36 am

Always good to have a cool, questioning, head. Especially when these charlatans are around, a1
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2021 12:37 am

I resemble that remark Peter !
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2021 9:30 am

Freeport or free-for-all? thinking

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 08, 2021 12:12 am

"The new freeport will cover the former steel work site, the port of Hartlepool right the way across up the river to Darlington and Teesside airport."

That's the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], anyway.

Anyone know the real extent of the Freeport? I'm wondering if it includes the waste and wood burning plants they've been making so much of recently?

Talking of which, there's a 'Dispatches' on Channel 4 this evening exposing some of the serious issues around incineration of waste, like that planned at the Teesworks site.

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 08, 2021 12:29 am

The only firms who will be able to be included in the Freeport are those who set up business after it starts, so even if they are in the designated area they will not be included even if they expand their current operation. ( That's what Houchen said on TV recently )

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 11, 2021 10:38 pm

More good news for jobs and a " blue chip "" company involved.

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 11, 2021 11:19 pm

Last week it was 3000 onsite jobs, now its 750, 1500 in the supply chain. Similar at Darlington, 750 New jobs, unless the people in the jobs move up North.

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed Mar 17, 2021 12:45 pm

The good news just keeps on coming

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 18, 2021 4:17 pm

And coming ,

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If only a tenth of these projects actually come to fruition it will be more investment than the last 30 years put together !

It's good to have a Conservative Mayor , let's keep it that way and the investment will keep on coming , bribery or not , it's brilliant news !

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 25, 2021 12:57 am

I'd like to think that, for once, these stories might be even remotely true. The evidence suggests they're anything but. Just the same old spin from politicians and press that's been going on on Teesside as long as I can remember. The Gazette is, as ever, a willing and unchallenging partner in the deception. They also rely on that wonderful distraction tool to avoid closer scrutiny; the word 'jobs'.

What we have in reality is the established 'dirty and discredited' industries grasping at straws - promising to behave better in the future and saying everything will be all right because they have found the magic potion that will make those promises come true. The new clean is being led by the old dirty.

The irony is that hydrogen can and should be key to providing a carbon free clean fuel for the future. It need not rely on fossil fuels, It only needs electricity and water to produce it. The real clean resources are already there. Offshore wind can provide the means (as can several other carbon-free sources) and it's good to see that Teesside can – if it chooses - now have a vital part to play in making it happen. The sooner we have a local hydrogen economy the better – the Tees and the Humber can be the exemplar for home heating and for local transport to lead the country.

BP, the other industrial players, the politicians, the local establishment, all seem intent on rewriting that script to protect their own interests. I hear they plan to drill for still more fossil fuels under the North Sea - in spite of everything we now know about climate change threatening the planet.

(Cue a response about tree-hugging stone age life.)
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 25, 2021 10:14 am

Quote :
It only needs electricity and water to produce it.

It’s a little more complex than that. 😀

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 25, 2021 10:33 am

True.  It needs plenty of input from skilled workers and supply industries too.   [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 25, 2021 11:40 am

We got a little booklet " Building back with Ben Houchen's recovery plan" through the letterbox with eleven photos of Ben Houchen in it.
He'd turn up for the opening of an envelope.

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 25, 2021 10:57 pm

Not exactly on the Teesworks Site but probably in the Freeport area more good news.

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 25, 2021 11:13 pm

The plastic recycling plant sounds the same as the one that burnt down at Liverton Mines a year or two ago.

There is no question that like most politicians Ben Houchen loves to get publicity. But no-one can deny that he is managing to make changes to the area.
I certainly didnt think he would be able to get the airport back.
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 26, 2021 12:44 am

Finding a way to break down waste into its component chemicals is the holy grail of the circular economy - and as long as it's cheaper at point of manufacture to design for throwaway use, it's very very difficult to achieve economically.   Let's hope this method actually works.

The Wilton site is, oddly, a part of the Freeport, even though it has no direct international connections.  Presumably it won't be import/export tariffs that make it attractive to these start-ups, so it'll be the other tax incentives and the promise of less regulation that they've been holding back for.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of the various Freeport sites scattered around the Tees Valley. It does seem that much of the Freeport isn't there to cut import/export paperwork!  It has more in common with the Mexican maquiladoras
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 26, 2021 10:29 am

It does seem a lot of money for a gatehouse but their was obviously more to do than building a shed for security men.

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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 26, 2021 3:02 pm

Ben Houchen (via the Gazette) wrote:
a state of the art front door to the UK’s largest freeport, helping us to attract more investment and jobs to our area.

He clearly has no aesthetic sense!  That just looks very very ordinary, neither impressive nor welcoming.

I don't suppose these investors will be arriving on the X4 bus, but even so I hope there'll be a good 'green transport' provision for all the thousands of workers who are to be promised jobs here.  

I think there's a big opportunity been missed here (so far, anyway).   Here they are spinning away - mostly falsely - about the green credentials of the hydrogen hub and the 'renewable' clean energy that is Teesworks alleged future - yet the place to showcase that for real lies forgotten just beyond the gatehouse. - it's the British Steel railway station, on a line soon to be blessed with the UK's very first trains fuelled by hydrogen fuel cells.  That really is something to celebrate.

Along with a bus stop or two, that should become a local transport hub for the whole site - allowing easy access (e-cars? e-scooters?) to every part of Teesworks.  And a welcoming point for potential investors to boot.  And an information and education centre.  What's not to like?
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Recycled plastic is a myth...
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 26, 2021 9:06 pm

As long as they are paying the wages of 100 people in the area who cares !
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 26, 2021 10:28 pm

Believers in Global Warming.
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PostSubject: Re: Teesworks.   Teesworks. - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Apr 18, 2021 10:44 pm

More interest from investors !

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