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PostSubject: Re: Global warming. Is it happening? If so, is it anthropogenic?   Global warming. Is it happening? If so, is it anthropogenic? - Page 39 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 27, 2020 9:46 pm

From not everyones favorite paper...

Experts found 2°C warming may end 56 per cent of current wine growing areas
However, some areas could remain viable by cultivating warmer grape varieties

Meanwhile, cooler grapes may end grown at higher latitudes than at present
Hot regions like Italy and Spain, however, will see their vineyards suffer the most

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Therefore we have a choice.
Have cold homes , drive electric cars , eat vegan and drink wine or ……………...
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I think the Mail is over-simplifying things for the sake of a story that its readers will understand.

Climate change is, by definition, unpredictable in its impacts on temperature and on weather.   If you're a gardener, you've probably been very conscious of that over the last few years.   Temperature variations won't be evenly spread across the land masses, rainfall will change, climactic extremes are more likely.   So it's not just wine, it's all sorts of crops, all sorts of pests, all sorts of people will be be looking for ways to adapt or perish.

Though on a more positive note, I should add that our most novel (and, I think, best!) Christmas present was a pack of Coatham-grown raisins from a back-yard vine!

There seems to be very little coverage of it, but the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].   It looks like the discussion there was much more constructive than what we usually see in the papers, in social media, or in the House of Commons  (though parliamentary committees might be the exception).   Could this one break the political paralysis over what to do about the Climate Crisis?
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Could the lack of coverage mean that no one is interested in a talking shop where the results could already be published !
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Why on earth do you think the result's pre-determined? The big question is, will the government act on whatever conclusions they draw.

It was a Citizens Panel like this that was piloted in Eire and led to the reform of the abortion laws. Other places are trying them. Our own council in Bristol, all too often 'stuck' in political infighting, has just adopted the principle of using Citizens Panels.

Take a look at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] to understand why these Citizens Assemblies can lead to much better decision making. Try comparing the process with the Brexit Referendum, and maybe you'll be convinced!
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Naaaah. The only people who can be bothered to be on it will be sandal wearing swampy vegans.
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You should write comments on the Mail Online articles. Maybe you're using this forum for practice?
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The Mail online can't be doing a great deal wrong.

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Global warming problem solved !!!!

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Second weekend of the Climate Assembly - looks very accessible, worth a watch while the rain and wind sweep in?
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I think I'll stick to Bargain Hunt and Judge Rinder !
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I couldn't possibly comment....
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Just jealous of my obsession with modern culture .
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Put your dead in the green bin !!!

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So my Dad was right again, When I am dead, just put me in the bin.
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Please, please, please keep her down there, pg!!! cheers
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Didn't appear to be many there. Mind you it WAS raining !
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Me and quite a few others....   I lost count after the first 20K   smile

It was quite moving, seeing how many young people turned out on a bad day to an event organised at about 4 days notice.   Obviously Greta Thunberg's presence pushed the numbers up, in much the same way as she exposed the insecurities of people in Redcar enough to get them writing still more nonsense.  

What is it about this diminutive vulnerable-looking Swedish 17-year-old that triggers insecurity in a certain type of adult?   (You're not alone, you're among such world leaders as Trump, Putin, and Bolsonaro)

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Bristol City get more at a home game !
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20,000? You can't count that high.wink

Kids'll do owt for a day off school...... :P:
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Who is going to pay to restore College Green lawns?

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Who funds Greta's travel? Her father's travel with her, plus accommodation costs?

Who is paying the bills back home?
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jhc wrote:
Who is going to pay to restore College Green lawns?

Thanks for your unexpected interest on a small patch of grass in Bristol.

A quick crowd funder was arranged, aiming for £20K.   I chipped in a fiver, and it's running over £6K already.  The council's already assured us that they'll use any surplus on new wildflower plantings across the city.   You can see what it looked like after the 'poorly attended' rally [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  Watch to the end (though I think I can anticipate at least one response on here)  smile
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:P:
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For those in Redcar still worried about the state of College Green, Bristol.....   you can breathe easy.   Climate crisis protesters tread more lightly on this earth than you might fear  (or than you might want to suggest).
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